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    American, United and Delta Finally Invest in Business Class. Which Is Best?

    Airline passengers are tough critics, but even the most hardened road warrior should agree that the premium cabin experience is much improved from five years ago. Now airlines should turn their attention to coach, right?

    — Brian Sumers

    For business travelers flying in and out of the U.S., this may be the most exciting travel news all year.

    In recent months, all three major U.S. legacy airlines—American Airlines, Delta, and United—have unveiled eyebrow-raising designs for new lie-flat international business-class seats, some of which have already gone into service. Gone are the outdated seats and subpar onboard amenities that have long tormented frequent fliers. In their place are glossy offerings that can actually compete with international standard setters, like Cathay Pacific, Etihad, Qatar Airways, and Singapore Airlines.

    So what can you expect? Here’s a run-down of all the details you need to know—along with our own best-in-class awards for the features that matter most.

    AMERICAN AIRLINES

    Not all of American’s business class seats are created equal—and that’s because the airline has had several false starts deploying upgrades across its fleet since 2013. After three totally different configurations went into its 777-300ERs, 767-300, 787-8, and 777-200 aircraft, American confirmed in May that it had settled on a new seat for its remaining 777-200s, 787-9s, and A350-900s. Did you get all that?

    If not, just know that new seats of some sort should be on all American Airlines planes within the next year or so. The newest seats, called the B/E Aerospace Super Diamond, were partially deployed in October—find them on 787-9s for longer domestic routes (i.e. Dallas to Los Angeles) and long-hauls to Madrid and So Paulo.

    Luckily, they were worth the wait. The Super Diamonds are the largest business-class seats on American’s planes at 27.7 inches wide and 79 inches long when reclined to a lie-flat bed. There are 30 aboard each 787-9, laid out in a reverse-herringbone configuration.

    The Perks: 18-inch entertainment screens loaded up with nearly 300 movies; AC and USB plugs; Cole Haan amenity kits with C&O Bigelow products; and menus designed by a rotating cast of James Beard Award-winning chefs. And really wide seats.

    The Caveat: Inconsistency across the fleet means you could still get a business class seat on a 777-200 that doesn’t lie fully flat.

    DELTA

    In August, Delta announced it would be creating the first all-suites business class in the entire industry—meaning each seat will be fully closed off by a door. The seats will appear aboard Delta’s 25 forthcoming A350-900 aircraft, which are due to begin service on the airline’s transpacific routes in the fall of 2017.
    Delta also plans to refit its 777-200 aircraft with the new suites starting in early 2018. By the end of the process, about 20 percent of Delta’s long-haul fleet have the new suites (if all goes according to plan).
    If the seats look familiar, that’s because the carrier used the same ones—but a bit narrower and without the privacy doors—for its Business Elite cabins in recent years. A350-900s will have 32 of them arranged in a staggered front-facing 1-2-1 configuration; each will be over 21 inches wide and recline to a length of up to 81 inches.

    The Perks: High-resolution 18-inch screens with up to 300 movies, HBO, Showtime, 18 channels of live satellite TV (on select flights), podcasts, 2,500+ songs, and games. A USB port and universal power outlet for each seat. Heavenly bedding from Westin, Tumi amenity kits, and Kiehl’s products, as well as sleep suits on some transpacific flights. And the five-course dinners come with wine pairings from Master Sommelier Andrea Robinson.

    The Caveat: Availability. Delta One will only be on 20 percent of the carrier’s fleet, on unspecified routes, and not until late next year.

    UNITED

    Back in June, United announced a long-awaited overhaul of its international business-class service and amenities, including new seats. The cabins’ name, Polaris, is chosen after the North Star. The new seats will debut aboard United’s forthcoming 777-300ERs in December 2016, followed by its future 787-1000 and A350-1000 aircraft. After that, the airline will put the new seats aboard its existing 777-200s and 767-300s.

    On board, Polaris cabins will be laid out in a slightly angled and staggered 1-2-1 pattern; there are electronically controlled privacy dividers for the middle section. Instead of doors, the seats will have “Do Not Disturb” lights for privacy.

    Each seat will be up to 23 inches wide and recline to a fully flat bed of up to 78 inches; at bedtime on long-hauls, the flight attendants will dress it up in custom bedding from Saks Fifth Avenue and leave behind matching pajamas.

    Also part of the rollout? A series of nine Polaris-branded lounges, the first of which will open on December 1 at Chicago O’Hare (the rest will follow in 2017, in hubs like San Francisco, Newark, and Washington Dulles). They’ll have quiet areas with daybeds, pre-flight menus from Chicago-based chef Art Smith, cocktails by mixologist Adam Seger, and dedicated shower facilities.
    The Perks: Amenity kits with Soho House’s signature line of Cowshed Spa products, food from Chicago chef Bill Kim, and wines selected by United’s Master Sommelier, Doug Frost.
    The Caveats: Entertainment is less of a strong suit with Polaris. Their high-definition entertainment screens will be just 16 inches wide, with up to 150 movies and 185 television shows. Wi-Fi is also hit or miss: some planes don’t have it at all, and others offer the service for purchase.

    THE BOTTOM LINE

    There’s no clear winner, but your priorities will help you choose the cabin that’s right for you.

    If you want privacy… Delta wins hands down. With suite-style seats that have closing doors, the airline’s new business class will offer the most privacy, though the seats may not be as wide as some of the others out there.
    If you want personal space… American pulls ahead with the widest seats of all three carriers and a reverse-herringbone configuration that ensures easy direct-aisle access for everyone.

    If you want to book sooner rather than later… American Airlines’ new cabin is already operational on its newly delivered 787-9s, along with some refitted 777-200s. United is up next, with its December debut. By contrast, Delta’s seats won’t be available until late 2017.
    If you want reliable availability… We don’t know which rutes will be included in United’s Polaris launch, but the carrier still wins in this category. Why? Their rollout will be the fastest and the most comprehensive out of any fleet.
    If you want great amenities… Go with either Delta or United. Luxe bedding by Westin and Saks Fifth Avenue, respectively, earns points for both style and substance.
    If you want to stay entertained… Choose American or Delta. Both will have 18-inch screens with over 1,000 hours of entertainment, as well as in-flight Wi-Fi (for a price).
    EEA, domanda personale: perch la scelta di "Polaris"? Continuo a non capire la connessione col brand United
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    EEA, domanda personale: perch la scelta di "Polaris"? Continuo a non capire la connessione col brand United
    Beh, tieni conto del logo United intanto, un globo stilizzato; quindi gia' un richiamo al pianeta e allo spazio in cui esso esiste. Da qui si e' voluto abbinare un elemento nominale che richiama NON al Polo Nord o similari, ma alla stessa Stella Polare, che mi insegni e' fissa, ed e' la sola, nel firmamento.
    Marchiare il nuovo prodotto non come "United Business Class" ma dandogli un nome specifico (tipo Magnifica no?), per di piu' riferito alla stella delle stelle, e' un segnale distintivo e che in ogni caso risponde sia al logo societario che al concetto cui si riferisce, l'unicita'.
    Dal comunicato ufficiale di presentazione:

    Named after the North Star, United Polaris is the shining new star of business class travel that flyers can turn to for a tranquil and restful journey.

    hope this helps my friend!

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    Per me non c' gara, Delta vince sempre a mani basse.

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    Per me non c' gara, Delta vince sempre a mani basse.
    Vedremo dopo che i nuovi prodotti saranno stati provati; sono valutazioni interessanti, ma pur sempre basate su immagini e presentazioni di prodotto, con l'eccezione di AA

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    Vedremo dopo che i nuovi prodotti saranno stati provati; sono valutazioni interessanti, ma pur sempre basate su immagini e presentazioni di prodotto, con l'eccezione di AA
    Parlo da passeggero, il post di confronto tra le 3 non l'ho manco letto.

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    Ecco il primo 77W per UA, sara' anche il primo ad avere la nuova Polaris business class
    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-300er-431099/

    PICTURES: Boeing rolls out United’s first 777-300ER

    United Airlines' first Boeing 777-300ER has rolled out of the paint shop in Everett, Washington, nearly 22 years after the carrier took delivery of the first 777.




    United Airlines

    The Chicago-based carrier is scheduled to take delivery of the aircraft (registration N58031 and MSN 62642) from Boeing in late December, with entry-into-service slated for February 2017.
    United plans to base the stretched 777 at its Newark Liberty Internationalairport hub and will initially use the type on domestic flights before shifting it to international routes in the second quarter of 2017.
    The airline will debut its new Polaris business class seat on the 777-300ER. The aircraft will have 60 of the premium seats in the new all-aisle access configuration.
    United has firm orders for 14 777-300ERs, which will complement its fleet of 74 777-200s.
    The carrier took delivery of the first 777-200 in May 1995.

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    Giusto per completezza di informazioni, United annuncia le nuove lounge... faccio copia/incolla del mailing ricevuto oggi:

    Dear xxx,

    Your United PolarisSM experience begins in our exclusive business-class lounge, the first of its kind offered by a U.S. airline. We've rethought every aspect of the new lounge, from the food and furnishings right down to the place settings, to help you prepare for a relaxing journey filled with restful sleep.

    In our United Polaris lounge, you can enjoy restaurant-style dining with chef-inspired meals, sip fine wine or any other drink at our full-service bar, and then sit back and relax in a tucked-away area complete with chaises, soft lighting and white noise. You can take a relaxing shower under a massaging showerhead, using Soho House's Cowshed spa products. Or if you have work to do, there are custom work stations and all the connectivity you need to maximize productivity.

    The first United Polaris lounge will open this December at Chicago O'Hare, near Gate C18. And over the next two years, eight more lounges open in Houston, Los Angeles, New York/Newark, San Francisco, Washington Dulles, Hong Kong, London Heathrow and Tokyo Narita.

    If a United Polaris lounge is not available at your departure airport, you'll have access to United ClubSM locations and other partner lounges. United Polaris first class customers are also welcome to use our United Global First lounges, where available.

    We're excited to welcome you in one of our new exclusive United Polaris lounges soon. Your elevated travel experience awaits.

    more info at : https://hub.united.com/united-polari..._date=20161114

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    Ed eccola dunque, da ieri, la nuova United Polaris Lounge, inaugurata per prima a Chicago ORD e a seguire presso gli altri hubs della compagnia; sono previsti anche NRT, HKG e LHR nel sistema Polaris.
    Polaris experience si estendera' rapidamente al prodotto volo con l'arrivo dei 77W e A350, oltre al refurbishment ovviamente pianificato sui 772, 787 e 767.
    Enjoy!

    http://thepointsguy.com/2016/11/unit...ge-first-look/

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    Ed eccola dunque, da ieri, la nuova United Polaris Lounge, inaugurata per prima a Chicago ORD e a seguire presso gli altri hubs della compagnia; sono previsti anche NRT, HKG e LHR nel sistema Polaris.
    Polaris experience si estendera' rapidamente al prodotto volo con l'arrivo dei 77W e A350, oltre al refurbishment ovviamente pianificato sui 772, 787 e 767.
    Enjoy!

    http://thepointsguy.com/2016/11/unit...ge-first-look/
    Grandiosa Lounge! Qui superate Delta alla grande!!!

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    Fantstica! Looking forward to trying it!

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    Ladies and gentlemen, here we are... Clicca sull'immagine per ingrandirla. 

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    Non so se gi postato, ma ora a questo link c' anche il menu della nuova lounge a ORD...:

    http://thepointsguy.com/2017/01/unit...d71b1-44327825

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    Non so se gi postato, ma ora a questo link c' anche il menu della nuova lounge a ORD...:

    http://thepointsguy.com/2017/01/unit...d71b1-44327825
    Eggs Benedict! Che nostalgia...

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    Il primo volo dimostrativo per la nuova POLARIS, installata sul 777-300, e' decollato ieri da ORD per SFO; a bordo, ospiti, stampa specializzata e selected customers, oltre al top management ovviamente.
    Sara' invece effettuato giovedi' 16FEB il primo revenue flight, tratta EWR-SFO UA539 700AM, strapieno 60J/300Y.
    L'aereo volera'in lungo e largo per gli USA fino al 25MAR, quando sara' infine deployed intercont sulla SFO-HKG, tratta cui sara' dedicato.
    Enjoy some pics!
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    bel prodotto (finalmente, un'americana con un hard product degno...)

    Per aspera sic itur ad astra

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    Un bel prodotto! Complimenti UA!

    Aggiungo il TR fatto da The Points Guy, che peraltro era vicino di posto del CEO... http://thepointsguy.com/2017/02/united-777-300er-tour/

    Ciao.

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    Grazie millenove77, ecco il viaggio nei dettagli, sempre fatto da Zach Honig: http://thepointsguy.com/2017/02/first-polaris-biz-77w/

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    Grazie millenove77, ecco il viaggio nei dettagli, sempre fatto da Zach Honig: http://thepointsguy.com/2017/02/first-polaris-biz-77w/
    De nada, e grazie a te EEA per il nuovo report di TPG!
    Altissimi livelli di confort e servizio.
    A questo punto la miglior J tra le Nord Americane, considerando che l'ha provata TPG che non proprio tra le persone pi basse del mondo...

    poi, con il Thai-style lemongrass shrimp appetizer, siamo al top! Ho gi fame e sono solo le 16:54.

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    Grazie millenove77, ecco il viaggio nei dettagli, sempre fatto da Zach Honig: http://thepointsguy.com/2017/02/first-polaris-biz-77w/
    Ma come, non doveva essere 9-abreast?
    Are we there yet? Stories from the road.

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    Ma come, non doveva essere 9-abreast?
    ehmmm....no, sorry: http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...uary/95203278/
    Concordo che la 3-3-3 sia decisamente migliore. Vedo che anche LX, AF, KL e la stessa EK vanno di 10 abreast, ma certo, pensando alla media dei pax stars n stripes...

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    United launches 777-300ER on TLV-EWR

    United introduced its Boeing 777-300ER aircraft featuring the all-new United Polaris business class seat on EWR-TLV (Tel Aviv) this weekend, with the first flight departing EWR on May 5.
    “We are excited to introduce the 777-300ER to our service between Tel Aviv and New York,” said Israel Sales Managing Director Avi Friedman. “I am confident our customers will appreciate the elevated inflight experience offered by our all-new United Polaris business class seats onboard this aircraft.”
    This follows the introduction of United first 777-300ER service on flights between SFO and HKG (Hong Kong), which began March 25. United took delivery of its first 777-300ER in December 2016 and expect to receive all 14 aircraft on order during 2017.
    Since the debut of its United Polaris seat in March, double-digit increases in customer satisfaction scores for cabin appearance/comfort and cleanliness marked the improvement.

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    More 777-300ERs entering revenue service
    We continue to put new Boeing 777-300ER aircraft into revenue service. As of the end of May, we have six currently flying (aircraft 2131 through 2136). On June 14, we will begin flying SFO-NRT (Tokyo Narita) with the 777-300ER featuring our new United Polaris seats.
    We took delivery of our ninth 777-300ER (aircraft 2139) from Boeing on May 30; it is undergoing post-delivery modifications (PDMs) at SEA (Seattle) and will enter service this week.
    Aircraft 2137 is currently having United Polaris seats installed in Everett, Washington, and then our SEA maintenance team will perform the PDM work. Upon completion of the seat installation and modifications, aircraft 2137 will enter scheduled service between SFO-TPE (Taipei, Taiwan).

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    United Polaris: Delays, Delays, Delays, And More Delays
    Last June United announced the details of Polaris, which is the name of their new international premium cabin experience. This includes new business class seats, better onboard food and amenities, and better lounges. The Polaris product was launched as of December 1, 2016, which is when the Polaris Lounge Chicago opened, as well as when they started offering the new onboard soft product.
    I’ve reviewed United’s new 777-300ER Polaris product on a flight between San Francisco and Hong Kong, and Travis has reviewed the Polaris Lounge Chicago, including every dish on the menu.
    From the beginning I was wondering whether the Polaris marketing wasn’t a bit premature. They announced the start date for Polaris as being December 1, even though it would be several months before the first plane featured the new seats. That doesn’t even account for the fact that it would be five years until all the planes would feature the new seats.
    Worst of all, that was optimistic. United has been having issues with Zodiac, the designer of their new Polaris seats. Their original plan was to already be reconfiguring existing 777-200 aircraft with the new product, that hasn’t happened. Instead only the 777-300ERs that are being newly delivered feature these seats.
    So United hasn’t been keeping up with their promised timeline for Polaris seats, and that’s not the only area where they’re disappointing. United has now announced delays in the opening of new Polaris Lounges.
    Less than two weeks ago United said that their Polaris Lounges at Newark and San Francisco would be opening by the end of 2017, but that’s not happening anymore. Now United’s “Polaris Tracker” says that the next Polaris Lounges will be opening in San Francisco, Newark, and London, in “early 2018,” and Polaris Lounges in Houston, Los Angeles, Tokyo Narita, Hong Kong, and Washington Dulles, will be opening “later in 2018.” I suspect that these estimates are highly optimistic, as other reports have suggested that United is way behind on construction.
    So United isn’t living up to their promise when it comes to installing their new seats, and ins’t living up to their promise when it comes to the new lounges. It may very well be two years after the product was announced before you can visit a Polaris Lounge and then board a plane with Polaris seats (since presently the only Polaris Lounge is in Chicago, and there are no planes with Polaris seats flying out of there).
    Unfortunately as the construction is delayed, lounges will continue to be overcrowded, given that much of the space is closed and under construction. I experienced this recently at the United Club San Francisco. The issue with the delays isn’t just that passengers aren’t getting the better Polaris Lounge experience, but also that lounges are severely overcrowded in the meantime.

    http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...pening-delays/
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    Quello che mi stupisce e sorprende che Zodiac, una compagnia col settore produzione pi disfunzionale che abbia avuto modo di sentire (sembra la Fiat nell'autunno caldo), l'after sales pi incapace del mondo, riesca ancora a turlupinare compagnie aeree una dietro l'altra. Ora se non sbaglio si aggiunta pure JAL...
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